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Venalic Erus
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Posted - 2006.11.30 21:52:00 -
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Is it just me... or should miners/builders not sell on the open market....
Miners/builders IMO are stupid peeps that spend thier time shooting royds with lasers to sell a product...
Let me give you some advice.. Get someone that knows about business to do your selling for you!!
Take the new BC's
They were selling for approx 120mill quite happily until someons cam along and decided to put them on the market for 100mill... 20mill drop??? WHY!!!
1mill isk drop would have been far better, keeps the price high for every one..
Then sombody else comes along and puts 4 on for 80mill.. all within the space of 1hour the price is dropped by 40mill..
we are now in a situation 24hrs later where the new BC's are build price +1mill
All becuase people are stupid and do not try and get the highest price possible for thier product!
Have some market sense people, supply and demand... Try selling at 1isk under the current lowest, rather than millions.. keeps the market good for everyone INCLUDING YOU!!!
grrr, idiots make me sooo angry sometimes...
p.s. flame away.. i am looking forward to it
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Venalic Erus
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:06:00 -
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so you dont count labour as as a cost?
current build price for a Drake (at regional mineral prices) is 37.5millapprox
they are currently selling for 42mill
where is the labour cost?
In business you look to make between 30 and 40% AFTER all costings... including labour, there is no room for labour at the current sell price...
If ships are selling for 120mill why drop the price to 100mill? why not 119mill and make an extra 19mill into the bargin!!
people need to learn some business if they are going to make headway into the capitalist empire that is EVE...
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Venalic Erus
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:14:00 -
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why should they be a low margin item?
if you have the only ship for sale in the entire region do you not sell for the highest price you can get... or do you sell for the minimum?
if its the latter stick to shooting royds and let business people handle the trades!
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Venalic Erus
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Posted - 2006.11.30 22:45:00 -
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Quote: Supply and demand.
do you really understand that??
just because you make a small profit does not mean that you should not make a big profit if you are the only seller..
low supply + high demand = high prices!! not as you suggest... price so we break even!!
learn some business people please!!
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Venalic Erus
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Posted - 2006.11.30 23:16:00 -
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Quote: so by your logic I should charge you 10,000 isk per unit for zydrine and you would happily pay it?
if you were the only seller and i was that desperate for zyd... then the obvious answer is yes...
i am saying however dropping prices by 20mill a time is downright stupidity...
the prices would have remined high for alot longer which would have been good for all manufactures..
why take a 20mill loss if you dont need to?
basic marketing, many people lack!!
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Venalic Erus
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Posted - 2006.12.01 00:05:00 -
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haha.. yeah it was nerfed...
but in the few hours while the going was good i made just short of a bill plus all the BC bpo's (stockpile minerals FTW)
The people that complain are the buyers... but unfortunatly thats what they call a sellers market... if people are willing to pay that, then it should be sold at that.. no more no less... to drop the price by 20mill is still stupidity in any words...
119mill buyers would have still thought they got a good deal... if they were willing to pay that!!
i am glad i saw it coming and pulled out at the right time before the people who dont know how to run the market got involved!!
to talk of integraty.. lol.. what about integraty between manufactures huh...
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Venalic Erus
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Posted - 2006.12.01 09:28:00 -
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Quote: people that sell t1 below buildcost most likely want a fast sale and might in addition to that have very bad refinery skills.
bad refinery skills... surely that would make the sale cost higher... not lower....
The point i am making is that why do people feel the need to undercut other manufactures by such vast amounts. I cannot see the logic behind it..
It not only happens with ships, it happens with 99% of the buildable items on the market.. If you are willing to take such a cut in profit, then the whole system becomes unviable for everyone..
Enevetably this should mean that prices rise again due to a lack of supply.. but unfortunatly this is not the case.. there is always another idiot that comes along and nerfs the market yet again!!
i stand by what i say, 1isk people.. not millions....
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Venalic Erus
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Posted - 2006.12.01 10:25:00 -
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was that last post targeted at me?
if it was your entirley wrong!
I built all the ships i sold!..
buying and selling is a dangerous game, i had stock piled enough mins to build enough ships to make a very tidy profit... but that is beside the point AND off topic..
i know what the eve market is like.. its full of idiots that massivly undercut each other for a reason unknown to me...
once again... 1 isk not millions, have some business sense!!
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